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Off the Record...
Writer
Mark Waid has been involved in one acclaimed project
after another for the last 15 years. And he's never
been hotter. Recently nominated for an Eisner award
for his work on Crossgen's Ruse, Mark has been a Wizard
"Top Ten Writer" for the last 3 straight months.
Now, Mark has his sights set on comics' premiere family,
the Fantastic Four. We spoke with Mark recently about
his plans for the FF, his Super-secret Superman project,
and how he was robbed of his rightful place as the greatest
comic trivia mind on the planet.
You have had plenty of experience taking
over classic characters and titles and making them both
critical and retail successes, such as Captain America,
The Flash, Legion of Super Heroes, X-Men and JLA. In
August, youre taking over the writing honors for
yet another comic icon, the Fantastic Four. Tell us
why you didnt want to write FF at first and how
you were convinced to do it.
Shortly after my resignation from CrossGen was announced,
editor Tom Brevoort called me and offered me the FF--and
I had to think about it, to be frank. The long-running
series I tend to have affection for are those I discovered
when I was a kid--and by the time I found the FF, they
were WAY past their prime, creatively speaking. But
after a night or two of wrestling with the offer, I
decided that (a) I love the CHARACTERS, and (b) with
all due respect to those who have gone before me, many
of whom have written better FF stories than I'll probably
ever pen, maybe someone coming aboard who WASN'T deeply
wedded to the FF of the 1960s is the shake-up that book
seems to need. I was still on the edge--but Brevoort
tipped me in by suggesting that we play Reed a little
more like Doc Savage by way of Buckaroo Banzai, and
that sold me.
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"I love taking characters
that no one seems to like and shining them up,
showing off what it is that makes them cool and
what I love about them."
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Weve read that you have some
major plans for the title. Youve said that you
want to have something "new and different in every
issue. Stuff thats never been done before."
What can fans expect from your take on comics
most famous family?
Hopefully, the new. All the time. I'm using this assignment
as an opportunity to reinvent myself, as well--rethink
the writers' tricks I've learned over the years, re-examine
how I go about putting stories together.
I owe that much to the FF--it's not something people
who started reading comics after 1970 tend to remember,
but in their day, the FF was the VANGUARD of the new.
That book was the X-Force, the Authority of its time,
ushering in the Marvel Age of Comics--and the goal is
to restore that prominence to the title by spending
a lot less time with Dragon Man and Annihilus and a
lot more time with ideas and concepts you've NOT seen
before. And for that, I'm diving into the physics textbooks
deeply.
You have mentioned that you "tend toward applied
science in writing." Is that one of the aspects
that appealed to writing a character like Reed Richards?
Without question, but that's not the only appeal. I
also love writing the Smart Guys AND I love taking characters
that no one seems to like and shining them up, showing
off what it is that makes them cool and what I love
about them. One of my goals is to make Reed Richards
a character that appeals to readers under the age of
70. [Laughs]
For your and Mike Wieringos Fantastic Four
debut with issue #60, Marvel is reducing the cover price
to only 9 cents! Do you now consider yourself the cheapest
writer in the business?
[laughs] You're just jealous YOU'RE not earning a fourteen
dollar royalty on a million-copy print run!
You should see what Comic Books, ETC! pays...ahem.
Congratulations on being nominated for Best Writer in
this years Eisner Awards!
Thank you.
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"In Emma's case, for example,
we both make great sport of poking our pins into
out-of-control egos and unwarranted arrogance."
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Matter of fact, while you were writer,
Ruse has won three rec.arts.comics Awards, or "Squiddies"
(the second oldest still-existing comics industry award).
Obviously, your work on Ruse has been extremely well
received. Unfortunately, we hear that your last issue
is #12, and that you are leaving due to a difference
of opinion on the future direction of the title. Can
you speak of what that different direction was?
Actually, while I contributed some of the ideas that
they'll be using through issue twelve--and I don't know
which ones or how many--the actual last issue that was
"mine" is issue nine. I turned in plots for
ten and eleven, but as I say, I have no idea how they
might be interpreted or reworked. Other than that, I
really--legally--can't talk more about it.
You spent a year and a half at Crossgen as a senior
writer and scribing titles such as Crux, Sigil and Ruse.
Are there plans to work there again in the future?
I cannot imagine that ever being the case.
You have a knack for writing in different voices.
Did you find it challenging to write a female character
in first person, like Emma Bishop in Ruse? How do you
"get in character?"
Really, all I do is find that part of my own personality
that intersects with that of the character's and go
from there. In Emma's case, for example, we both make
great sport of poking our pins into out-of-control egos
and unwarranted arrogance.
Over the years, it has been joked that you are secretly
waiting for your parents to tell you that you are adopted
and are actually from the planet Krypton. Well, is the
next best thing finally getting to do a Superman project
for DC this Spring?
[Laughs] Pretty much, yeah.
What can you tell us about it?
At this early stage, there's a limit to
what I can say, but it's big. Believe me, this is big.
Artist Leinil Yu and I are giving you a whole new, 21st
century perspective on Superman, in the process restoring
some of the more "Siegel and Shuster friendly"
aspects to the legend. But make no mistake, this isn't
a look back. It's DEFINITELY a look FORWARD.
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"...if I listened to internet
message boards, I'd be convinced that I was the
worst JLA writer ever..."
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Speaking of writing Superman, few writers want to
follow Grant Morrison, yet you did on JLA with truly
memorable stories. Right out of the gate, you wrote
"Tower of Babel" (#43-46), the story of Batmans
betrayal of the JLA. Then, powerful stories such as
"Queen of Fables" (#47-49), "Man &
Superman" (#51-54) and "Terror Incognita"
(#55-58). In general, do you prefer to write in short,
3 to 4 issue story arcs like these?
Anything longer and, because I have the attention span
of a toaster, I tend to lose track. [Laughs] Thanks
for the kind words--if I listened to internet message
boards, I'd be convinced that I was the worst JLA writer
ever, even though I really liked "Terror Incognita."
Actually, I prefer to write one or two issue stories,
but I give good cliffhanger--and I'm in the process
of rethinking my instincts for pacing at this time,
anyway.
Besides intriguing plots during your time on JLA
(like separating the heroes from their secret identities),
you kept the dialogue between the characters flowing
effortlessly, yet gave each a distinct personality.
Do you enjoy working on group books more?
Not necessarily, but I do enjoy working on books where
characters can talk to one another with some familiarity.
When you and Ron Garney took over Captain America
in 1995, you revitalized the character and brought it
back to respectability. How difficult was it for you
personally to have the series canceled for the "Heroes
Reborn" fiasco?
It was pretty devastating, to be honest. We--and when
I say "we," I mean Ron's artwork--had tripled
the sales by the time our run was over.
Did you get some sort of small satisfaction to be
the one to bring the title back a year later with Captain
America Volume 3?
Yes, but it was tempered by the fact that--given 20/20
hindsight--I should never have come back. Something
about that second run just never came together, despite
the fact that I worked with two of the most talented
artists in the business (Garney and Andy Kubert).
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"I've always said that my
job each and every time I'm up is to make you
laugh or make you cry, and if I can do both, that's
a home run."
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How did you get to wear Adam Wests Batman
cowl and where is the infamous picture of you in it?
If I'm lucky, it's in a vault somewhere. Actually, it's
a replica cowl, a gift I gave Tom Peyer some years ago.
It's in his trophy room.
The DC mini-series Kingdom Come has been referred
to as one of your finest works. Do you have a particular
story, or a series that you wrote that you are most
proud of?
FLASH #0 is still the best thing I ever wrote that
was published. CAPTAIN AMERICA #14, the Red Skull story,
is the best think I ever wrote that WASN'T published--at
least, not as written--but I've been told that if and
when
Marvel does another Cap trade collecting that run, we
can include the original version of the story.
Is there one you would rather forget?
No. There are MANY I would rather forget. If anyone
wants their money back for SPIDER-MAN TEAM-UP #1, just
find me at any convention and hand it over.
At one time, you served as the cover gag editor for
Archie Comics. And in most of your work, humor tends
to find its way into the dialogue (it was classic when
Plastic Man was asked "YOU read the newspaper?!?"
and he answered "No, I copy the funny pages with
my hand!"). How important is humor to any story?
It's crucial to most good stories, at least the ones
I like reading and writing. I've always said that my
job each and every time I'm up is to make you laugh
or make you cry, and if I can do both, that's a home
run.
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"Artist Leinil Yu and
I are giving you a whole new, 21st century perspective
on Superman. At this early stage, there's a limit
to what I can say, but it's big. Believe me, this
is big. "
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Youve mentioned that you still love running
out every Wednesday and getting new comics each week.
What are some of your current favorite titles?
INCREDIBLE HULK, X-STATICS, anything by Paul Jenkins...that's
a short list, but it's a start.
Youve been collecting since you were a kid.
Do you still have any comics from your childhood that
you will never part with?
Yes. All of them.
If you had to do it again, could you take Kurt Busiek
in Wizards trivia contest? (Kurt got a 101 out
of a possible 120, while Mark came in 3rd place with
an 89)
I was SO ROBBED! [laughs] Go ahead! Ask Wizard staffer
Andy Serwin! I was his first guinea pig on that quiz,
so I'm the guy who ferretted out the lame or misleading
questions--then, AFTER the quiz was revised, THAT'S
when Kurt and Brevoort got their crack at it! Unfair,
I say. Unfair.
Are their any other projects on the horizon for Mark
Waid?
EMPIRE. Barry Kitson's working on issue three right
now, and DC will be relaunching the series early next
year.
Cool! What can you tell us about it? What's it about?
This is a continuation of the series Barry and I launched
through the
ill-fated Gorilla Comics imprint a couple of years ago--the
ongoing story of what happens when a super-villain who
wants to conquer the world actually SUCCEEDS--and what
his empire is like.
Sounds interesting. We'll be sure to keep an eye
out for it.
Okay, now is the time for "2099" portion
of our interview. This is where I ask you 20 questions
in 99 seconds. Its basically an "either/or"
type of response, but you can answer whatever first
pops into your head.
Write or edit: Edit.
On-going or Mini-series: Ongoing.
Late night or early day: Early day.
Better detective - Simon Archard or Batman: Batman.
Big screen or rent: Rent.
Play with toy or keep in box: PLAY!
Cross-overs or One-shots: One-shots.
Plastic Man or Mr. Fantastic: Mr. F.
Fly or drive: Drive.
Run Fast or Flight: Run fast!
First Print or TPB: TPB
Barry or Wally: Wally!
South Park or Simpsons: Simpsons forever.
Cell phone or E-mail: E-mail.
Sleep in or make deadline: Make deadline, sadly.
Squeeze in the middle or at the end: End.
Which is greater - Reeds understanding of the
negative zone or your encyclopedic knowledge of comics:
My knowledge. But Reed's understanding is more valuable.
Even if it is fictional.
World Series or Super Bowl: Couldn't care less.
Lou Ferigno or Adam West: Adam West, you HERETIC.
Buffy or Vampirella: Buffy.
CREDITS (Pretty Gosh Darn Close to Being Official)
AWARDS
EISNER: KINGDOM COME
WRITING CREDITS
ACCLAIM COMICS
OPERATION: STORMBREAKER
X-O MANOWAR 1-6
ARCHIE COMICS
ARCHIE 3000 18
ARCHIE'S PALS 'N' GALS 222, 223
RIVERDALE HIGH 5
VERONICA IN ROME 16
BLACK BULL COMICS
GATECRASHER: RING OF FIRE 1-4
GATECRASHER (ongoing) 1-6
CROSSGEN COMICS
CROSSGEN CHRONICLES 4
CRUX 1-12
NEGATION 1
NEGATION PREQUEL
RUSE 1-9
SAURIANS: UNNATURAL SELECTION 1-2
SIGIL 12-19
DC COMICS
ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN 536
BATMAN #433 (one page--not telling which one)
BATMAN: LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT ANNUAL 4
DC UNIVERSE HOLIDAY BASH 1, 3
DC UNIVERSE: TRINITY 1, 2
DETECTIVE ANNUAL 2
FLASH 50th ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL (1990)
FLASH 62-129, 142-150, 152-159, 162
FLASH 80-PAGE GIANT 1
FLASH ANNUAL 4, 5, 6, 8
FLASH CINNAMON MINI-BONS CEREAL COMIC
FLASH PLUS 1
FLASH SECRET FILES 1, 2
FLASH TELEVISION SPECIAL (1991)
GOG 1
GREEN LANTERN 80-PAGE GIANT 2
GREEN LANTERN CORPS QUARTERLY 2
GREEN LANTERN SECRET FILES 2
IMPULSE 1-6, 8-17, 19-21, 23-27
J.L.X. 1
JLA 18-21, 31, 32, 43-58, 60
JLA SECRET FILES 3
JLA: HEAVEN'S LADDER
JLA: YEAR ONE 1-12
JUSTICE LEAGUE CINNAMON MINI-BONS CEREAL COMIC
JUSTICE LEAGUE QUARTERLY 5, 6, 8, 9, 10 (3 stories),
12
JUSTICE LEAGUE TASK FORCE 13-15, 0, 17-19
JUSTICE LEAGUE: A MIDSUMMER'S NIGHTMARE 1-3
JUSTICE SOCIETY 80-PAGE GIANT 1
KID FLASH 1
KINGDOM 1, 2
KINGDOM COME 1-4
KINGDOM COME COLLECTED (12 new pages)
L.E.G.I.O.N. 49-50, 52-60
L.E.G.I.O.N. ANNUAL 4
LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES 59-61, 0, 62-71
LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES ANNUAL 6
LEGIONNAIRES 16-18, 0, 19-20
LEGIONNAIRES ANNUAL 1, 2
METAMORPHO 1-4
NATIONAL COMICS 1
NIGHTSTAR 1
OFFSPRING 1
PLANET KRYPTON 1
ROBIN PLUS 1
SHOWCASE '96 12
SILVER AGE 1
SILVER AGE 80-PAGE GIANT 1
SILVER AGE SECRET FILES 1
SILVER AGE: DIAL "H" FOR HERO 1
SON OF THE BAT 1
SUPER-SOLDIER 1
SUPER-SOLDIER: MAN OF WAR 1
SUPERBOY (third series) 7
SUPERMAN 114
SUPERMAN: MAN OF STEEL 58, 73
THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD: FLASH AND GREEN LANTERN 1-6
THE LIFE STORY OF THE FLASH
UNDERWORLD UNLEASHED 1-3
VALOR 9, 11-19
EVENT COMICS
ASH WIZARD 1/2 EDITION
ASH: CINDER & SMOKE 1-6
PAINKILLER JANE 1-4
VAMPIRELLA/PAINKILLER JANE 1
GORILLA COMICS
EMPIRE 1-2
IMPACT COMICS
COMET 1-10, 12-18
COMET ANNUAL 1
CRUCIBLE 1-6
CRUSADERS 1-4, 8
IMPACT WINTER SPECIAL 1 (3 stories)
LEGEND OF THE SHIELD 1-12
WEB ANNUAL 1
IMAGE COMICS
WILDSTORM RARITIES 1
MARVEL COMICS
AVENGERS 400-402
CAPTAIN AMERICA 444-454
CAPTAIN AMERICA v3 1-13, 15-23
CAPTAIN AMERICA, SENTINEL OF LIBERTY 1-6, 8-9, 11-12
CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE LEGEND 1
DEADPOOL 1-4
FANTASTIC FOUR 60-
KA-ZAR 1-14
KA-ZAR: SIBLING RIVALRY 1
MARVEL HOLIDAY SPECIAL 1996
MARVEL UNIVERSE: ONSLAUGHT 1
SPIDER-MAN 2099 SPECIAL 1
TALES OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE 1
UNCANNY X-MEN 320, 321
X-MEN 49, 51-56
X-MEN UNLIMITED 10
X-MEN: ALPHA
X-MEN: OMEGA
X-MEN: ONSLAUGHT 1
EDITING CREDITS
Amazing Heroes (1985-86)
The Art of W. Simonson
Batman: Gotham By Gaslight
Christmas With The Super-Heroes (1988, 1989)
Doom Patrol (1987-1989)
Legion of Super-Heroes (1988-1989)
The Private Files of the Shadow
Secret Origins (1987-1989)
Secret Origins of the World's Greatest Superheroes
The Golden Age of Superman: The Greatest Covers of Action
Comics from the
'30s to the '50s
The Silver Age of Superman: The Greatest Covers of Action
Comics from the
'50s to the '70s
Superman Archives, Vol. 1
Superman in the Sixties
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