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Loki,
the Frost Giants and the Absorbing Man couldn't kill
Thor. But Michael Avon Oeming, perhaps best known for
co-creating and drawing Powers, destroyed Asgard and
the God of Thunder in his recent run on Thor. Now, he
brings many loose ends to a close with the new Stormbreaker:
Saga of Beta Ray Bill mini series. We chatted with Mike
about his current Beta Ray Bill project, his upcoming
Red Sonja series and how Brian Michael Bendis is his
lackey...
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"I hope there are lot better Thor stories
to come than mine. I'm happy to hear people say
it was second only to Walt Simonson's run. I can
die happy with that."
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CBEtc: Recently, you had the daunting task of not
only ending the Thor series, but also bringing a close
to the great legend of Thor and the realm of Asgard.
Do you feel you have staked your part in Thor history
as one of the best Thor stories of all time?
OEMING: Hah! I hope not. I hope there are lot better
Thor stories to come than mine. I'm happy to hear people
say it was second only to Walt Simonson's run. I can
die happy with that.
CBEtc: Your "Ragnarok" story arc quickly sold
out and is now going for as much as $25 an issue in
the Wizard price guide. Are you surprised by the strong
reaction from the fans?
OEMING: Yeah, I've never been part of a book like that
before.
CBEtc: What about the early issue of Powers?
OEMING: Even Powers' back issues never jumped like that.
It feels nice, but a bit strange.
CBEtc: With your creator-owned Hammer of the Gods
series, as well as your run on Thor and now Stormbreaker,
it appears safe to say you are a Norse mythology expert.
How much research have you done over the years?
OEMING: I'm hardly an expert. My memory is too bad.
But, I have tons of books and have done lots of reading
over the years. I've had interest in mythology and Norse
mythology since childhood. I'd love to take some mythology
courses if I had the time. I'm a huge fan of Joseph
Campbell.
CBEtc: In the last issue of Thor, you wrote: "Such
is an irrefutable truth: Life consumes life." That's
pretty cheery. Is that an Oeming philosophy or a Norse
philosophy?
OEMING: Errr... (more of a Joseph) Campbell philosophy.
At a least a philosophy he came to from his findings.
But it's a truth it makes sense. It's why almost all
sacrifice involve blood: blood is life, the end or beginning.
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"The story never ends, really. Ragnarok leads
into Bill; Bill sort of leads into the Thor relaunch.
There's always hope for more Bill stories, which
we set up with the end issue. We also tie up a
lot of the loose ends from the Thor run. "
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CBEtc: When it comes to comic fans, what else is
an irrefutable truth?
OEMING: They love comics. There seems to be two kinds
of fans: one that loves comics and stories in general,
and those who love the characters, and the characters
come before story.
CBEtc: With every ending, they say, another story
begins. In your case, with the end of Thor, comes the
current mini-series Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray
Bill. Bill has to deal with the aftermath of the end
of Asgard. What can Thor fans expect from this series?
OEMING: The story never ends, really. Ragnarok leads
into Bill; Bill sort of leads into the Thor relaunch.
There's always hope for more Bill stories, which we
set up with the end issue. We also tie up a lot of the
loose ends from the Thor run.
CBEtc: One of the cool things about Stormbreaker
#1 is we actually get to see some of the final battle
missing in the pages of Thor. We witness heroes fall
and perish a noble warrior's death.
OEMING: Yeah, I only wish Dan and I had more room for
it. The issue was already crammed. First issues are
tough.
CBEtc: Fans can't seem to get enough of stories
like these. Is it as much fun writing the end of characters?
Or after seeing what Bendis went through with Avengers
Disassembled, is it more stressful due to the care you
have to take in respecting the creators before you and
the fans of the characters?
OEMING: I think it was easier for me because I wasn't
getting rid of main characters like Bendis did in Disassembled.
I really didn't deal with a backlash. The Thor message
board has been hugely supportive, although I had to
win a few over first. [Laughs]
CBEtc: You are currently co-writing Stormbreaker
with Dan Berman, whom you have also shared writing chores
on other projects like Thor and The Six. What is the
process for the two of you working together?
OEMING: Each step gets ping-ponged back and forth. I
start it out and end it; Dan writes full scenes that
I indicate or can't figure out and vice versa. On Thor,
he was helping out, but on Stormbreaker, he's full on
co-writing and has projects of his own coming out.
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"I rule Powers and Brian does as he's told.
I say jump, he says, 'Oy, again?' [Laughs]"
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CBEtc: How is your collaboration with Berman different
than working with Brian Michael Bendis on Powers?
OEMING: I rule Powers and Brian does as he's told. I
say jump, he says, "Oy, again?" [Laughs]
CBEtc: When you broke into the comic industry, you
started out as an inker. How did you go from that to
getting together with Bendis and coming up with the
idea for Powers?
OEMING: A long progression. I started out as a strong
inker, who did pin-ups, and as my pencils got better,
I started getting more work. I met Brian after Foot
Soldiers and he encouraged me (along with David Mack)
to do creator-owned stuff at Caliber. We started our
friendship like that, just fellow creators.
CBEtc: So, you and Brian were close friends?
OEMING: Brian and I got closer and closer and around
the time of Bulletproof Monk, I say we became good "phone-pals."
When Ship of Fools was done, I contacted him and new
we wanted to work together. SInce then he's become one
of my best friends.
CBEtc: When you and Brian first started Powers,
did you ever imagine it would become this popular or
last this long?
OEMING: No, we had hopes we could make a living off
it, but that's it. We are both hugely excited and grateful
for all we have.
CBEtc: In "Forever", the final story arc
of the first volume of Powers, you had the opportunity
to draw different genres. There were some definite homages
being paid to Conan, Death Dealer by Frazetta, Crouching
Tiger Hidden Dragon and so on. Was that fun?
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"We are exploring her character in the Robert
E. Howard world. It's not about fantasy, but about
characters in a fantasy world. I think Sonja is
hugely interesting physiologically... She's the
original bad girl."
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OEMING: Hell, yeah! Especially the Gora issue. I'd
love love to do more Gora stories. The Einstein issue
was a ton of fun as well, doing that '30's stuff.
CBEtc: Did it help spark interest in trying other
projects, like your upcoming Red Sonja series?
OEMING: I think Sonja was a natural step. With Thor,
Hammer of the Gods and such, it's obviously a genre
I love.
CBEtc: From what I have read, Red Sonja: She-Devil
With A Sword, will be an ongoing series published by
Dynamite Entertainment and will feature art by Mel Rubi.
What can you tell us about it?
OEMING: Mike Carey is co-writing it. We are exploring
her character in the Robert E. Howard world. It's not
about fantasy, but about characters in a fantasy world.
I think Sonja is hugely interesting physiologically.
CBEtc: Conan fans everywhere want to know: Will
there be any connection to Conan?
OEMING: You never know. No plans right now though. Conan
is a great book, isn't it?
CBEtc: Absolutely. The work Kurt Busiek and Cary
Nord is doing is wonderful. So, is it possible to have
Conan in future Red Sonja stories? Or, is licensing
an issue?
OEMING: I have no idea how the licensing would work
out. But it would be cool.
CBEtc: Based on the legion of big-name cover artists
lined up (Alex Ross, Gred Land, Michael Turner, J.G.
Jones, Joseph Michael Linsner, John Cassaday, Adam Hughes,
Art Adams, etc.), there is still a huge love for Red
Sonja. Or, are you just shelling out big bucks?
OEMING: No, there's obviously love for the character.
She's the original bad girl. While that craze came and
went, she is the original.
CBEtc: You live in New Jersey. Do you get tired
of the "what exit" jokes?
OEMING: [Laughs] Never tired of it, because it's true.
We are also very mobbed up; it's no joke. I'm exit 7,
although you can also take 7-A to Route 206 and then
130. [Laughs]
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"(Will Eisner) was very kind to me, a really
happy guy. A living legend. It's amazing to see
what he did, blazing a path in comics storytelling.
He had an amazing life. My hopes are that I can
live as long as he did and continue drawing until
my last days."
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CBEtc: You donated the cover to Powers #5, as well
as three pages of original art to help those in need
after the terrible tsunami disaster. That was very generous.
What has fan reaction been like?
OEMING: Very supportive. We raised way more money than
I dreamed. Over $4,000 I think, and that was just for
the covers and pages. If you go to the Bendis board
you'll find more info on it.
CBEtc: You have a very unique art style. Who were
your greatest influences?
OEMING: Alex Toth, Steve Rude's Nexus, Bruce Timm, Frank
Frazetta, Mike Mignola.
CBEtc: What was the weirdest sketch request you
ever had at a convention?
OEMING: Either naked Walker or just breasts. Actually
it was one breast and it connected with the Powers Einstein
issue.
CBEtc: The comic industry lost a legend recently
with the passing of Will Eisner. Did you ever get the
chance to meet him?
OEMING: Yes! He was very kind to me, a really happy
guy. A living legend. It's amazing to see what he did,
blazing a path in comics storytelling. He had an amazing
life. My hopes are that I can live as long as he did
and continue drawing until my last days.
CBEtc: What other projects are on the horizon for
you?
OEMING: They can all be seen on my Web site, www.mike-oeming.com.
QUIXOTE, 86 VOLTZ the DEAD GIRL, both written by Bryan
J.L. Glass are next to be released. People can keep
track of such things through my e-mail newsletter by
e-mailing me at oeming@AOL.COM
Okay, now is the time for the "2099"
portion of our interview. This is where we ask you 20
questions in 99 seconds. It’s basically an "either/or"
type of response, but you can answer whatever first
pops into your head.
Interiors or Covers: Interiors. Covers slow me
down.
Writing or Drawing: Drawing. Writing is hard.
X-Box or Playstation: Playstation. I can't
wrap my hobbit-sized hands around X-Box controls.
First print or trade paperback: Trades.
Eat out or delivery: Eat out. I'm in the house
too much.
Beta Ray Bill or Billy Ray Cyrus: [Laughs]
Star Wars or Star Trek: Star Wars, but I love
original Star Trek series.
Eagles or Giants: I hate sports, but I like
to hear the Eagles do well. Keeps the natives calm.
Squeeze from the middle or at the end: From
the middle, but I roll it up to make sure I get it all
out.
Ongoing or mini-series: Mini, I guess.
Worse temper...Deena Pilgrim (Powers) or Red Sonja:
Deena. Sonja vents by killing people all the time.
Late night or early day: Late night. I hate
mornings. Even the morning light depresses me.
Big screen or rent: Big screen.
Play with toy or keep it in the box: Play.
Fly or drive: Drive!
South Park or Simpsons: Simpsons.
Big Sword or Big Hammer: Sword, but a hammer
is more dangerous. I saw a special on it.
Sleep in or make deadline: Sleep. I almost
always make my deadlines.
Lou Ferigno or Adam West: Ferigno has been
mean to people I know, and he pushed me once. So I go
with West who was nice to me.
Buffy or Vampirella: They both suck. Get it?
its a jo... nevermind...
WRITING CREDITS
Red Sonja (Writer, upcoming)
86 Voltz: Dead Girl (Co-Writer, Artist upcoming
Mice Templar (Co-Writer, Artist upcoming)
Cross Bronx (Co-Writer, Artist upcoming)
Quixote Novel (Artist upcoming)
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #1-6 (Writer)
Powers (Vol.2) #1-present
Powers (Vol.1) #1-37, Annual, Coloring Book, Scriptbook
Thor #80-85 (Writer)
Six (Writer)
MATRIX (Vol.2)
The Black Forest
Doctor Cyborg: Outpatient
B.P.R.D. The Soul of Venice & Other Stories
Common Grounds #1
Bastard Samurai: Samurai Noir
Ultimate Spider-Man Super Special
Bulletproof Monk
Hammer of the Gods: Mortal Enemy
Hammer of the Gods: Hammer Hits China
Hammer of the Gods Color Saga
Knights of the Dinner Table: Everknights
Xin: Legend of the Monkey King #2 (cover art-limited
edition)
Catwoman: Secret Files
Grendel Red, White and Black
Oni Press Color Special
One Plus One (Oni, covers)
Heroes
Parliament of Justice
Spider-Man Super Thriller #1: Midnight Justice
Ship of Fools
The Footsoldiers #1
Frankenstein Mobster
Gene Fusion
Judge Dredd
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